In today’s episode, Melanie and Roxanne unpack the viral headlines around DEI (did Jamie Dimon really call DEI initiatives ‘stupid’?), the real data behind DEI spending, and why talking about its effectiveness shouldn’t be taboo. They also dive into a bigger shift happening in the workplace — and what it means for measuring impact. With automation taking over admin-heavy tasks, are mediocre managers at risk? Will superstar managers handle more direct reports? And what happens when AI raises the bar for entry-level employees?

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