This week Jack Butcher joins Jamie, Leyla and Jay to discuss, the power of a network, Systems art, the internet's huge creative unlock, the value of independence and whether 'Artist' is a dead word.00:50 - Welcome Jack Butcher 03:46  - Jack's practice in his own words 05:56 - Don't over think it 07:32 - Design vs Art  10:11 -  Systems art and the internet as a canvas 18:05 - In-search of resonance 23:30 - Validation and recognition 26:05 - How useful is the term 'Artist'? 31:45 - The internet's huge unlock 35:50 - Effort does not equal value 38:00 - Independence, control and  externalising your thinking 39:54 - Minting on instinct 43:00 - The power of a network 45:30 -  Why is the industry so male orientated? 48:10 - Thoughts on exhibiting in a physical space 54:50 - Creating understanding and the issue with working outside the box 59:55 - Power laws and growing the network 01:05:15 - Making your process visible 01:11:50 - New projects, experiments and constraints 01:14:32 - AI as part of a creative practice 01:16:35 - Where we'll be in three years? 01:25:00 - News from across the space 01:29 50 - Embracing the intensity of the space 01:32:15 - Artist highlights Jack Butcher: https://x.com/jackbutcher Visualize Value: https://x.com/visualizevalueEd Atkins:  https://www.instagram.com/edatkinsdietRafaël Rozendaal: https://x.com/newrafael Heft: https://x.com/heft_gallery Kevin Esherick: https://x.com/kev_esh William Mapan: https://x.com/williamapan           

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