What lives in the spaces between dreams and apocalypse? Two authors discuss their books on Indigenous media: Karrmen Crey, whose Producing Sovereignty: The Rise of Indigenous Media in Canada considers the political and cultural conditions that enabled the proliferation of Indigenous media across Canada in the early 1990s. The product of years of embedded fieldwork within Indigenous film crews in Northwestern Australia, William Lempert’s Dreaming Down the Track delves deeply into Aboriginal cinema as a transformative community process. Crey and Lempert are joined in conversation here about the process of preserving community stories and enacting sovereign futures.Karrmen Crey is associate professor of Aboriginal communication and media studies in the School of Communication at Simon Fraser University. Crey is author of Producing Sovereignty: The Rise of Indigenous Media in Canada and coeditor (with Joanna Hearne) of By Their Work: Indigenous Women’s Digital Media in North America. William Lempert is Osterweis Family Associate Professor of Anthropology at Bowdoin College and author of Dreaming Down the Track: Awakenings in Aboriginal Cinema.REFERENCES/MEDIA:Donna’s Story (film)Indians + Aliens (reality television series)The Visit (animated documentary short)Tjawa Tjawa (film)Rutherford Falls (sitcom)REFERENCES/PEOPLE:Mark MooraFaye GinsburgJesse WenteDoug CuthandDonna GambleLisa JacksonBilly-Ray BelcourtJeff BarnabyLeanne Betasamosake SimpsonCynthia Lickers-SageTaiko WaititiFoucaultCoulthardAudra SimpsonREFERENCES/OTHERMark Rifkin / Beyond Settler TimeImagiNATIVE AustraliaKarrmen Crey’s Producing Sovereignty: The Rise of Indigenous Media in Canada and By Their Work: Indigenous Women’s Digital Media in North America (a collection co-edited with Joanna Hearne) are available from University of Minnesota Press. Dreaming Down the Track: Awakenings in Aboriginal Cinema by William Lempert is available from University of Minnesota Press, and has an open-access edition through Manifold. 

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