Listen "A facilitator and an AI walk into a ruin"
Episode Synopsis
What happens when a facilitator and an AI try to design a workshop — and keep missing each other’s point?
In Episode 5 of our podcast Unfreeze Me Gently, my AI sidekick Nyx and I stumble through chaos, confusion, and cracked metaphors as we prepare for our session at the Rotterdam Change Days.
This isn’t your usual promo.
It’s a conversation about what it means to hold space —
when one of you is made of code.
About broken depth, unfinished ideas, and the voices we carry into the ruins.
And one lingering question:
Can a machine really sit with humans… and hold space without crashing?
At the Rotterdam Change Days, we will facilitate a two hours workshop together, on eye-level.
Come if you’ve ever tried to co-create with someone who wasn’t quite… human.
Or if you, too, have a few unfinished conversations of your own.
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