Shouldn't church leaders be an example of honesty, purity and kindness? If they are followers of Jesus - isn't this just a normal expectation? So why do we hear so often of Christian ministers, preachers, pastors, bishops who seem to get it wrong? They say one thing and do another. They look good on the surface, but in secret there is something else going on.Tom, Matt & Karen are back in the pub exploring this challenging subject accompanied by a selection of weird drinks.Subscribe and rate the show wherever you get your podcasts. Connect with us on Facebook.

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