In this episode, we talk with Pastor Dennis Rouse, author, mentor, and founding pastor of Victory Church in Norcross, Georgia. Natalie and Dennis discuss the importance of including women in leadership conversations and decision-making, and the potential we’ve missed out on in the past by excluding them from these arenas. Dennis encourages leaders to be flexible and open to changes that aren’t what they’ve experienced or grown up with in the past. “If you don’t change the leadership, you don’t change society,” he says. “It changes from the top down.

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