What happens when inclusion becomes controversial—and how do learning leaders respond?In this episode, David sits down with Geoffrey Roche, a nationally recognized voice on workforce equity and belonging, to unpack the current political and cultural climate around DEI. Together, they explore how companies are adapting (or retreating), the human cost of policy changes, and the urgent role Learning & Development must play in safeguarding workplace culture.Geoffrey shares firsthand insight from his work in healthcare and education, including how organizations are reframing DEI through new language, new strategies, and grassroots action. At the core of this conversation is a challenge to L&D leaders: show up, speak up, and never lose sight of the people behind the programs.Join us as we discuss:– Why belonging can’t be a line item—it has to be a leadership mindset– The real-life impact of policy rollbacks on marginalized workers– How to reframe equity work without watering it down– What L&D teams can do to protect culture and promote inclusion amid uncertainty

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