The podcast explores the relationship between John Hattie's work on visible learning and the Deans for Impact's publication, "The Science of Learning," highlighting areas of agreement and divergence. Dr Neil Hopkin argues that while both sources emphasize cognitive science and effective teaching practices, Hattie's research offers additional insights, particularly on collective teacher efficacy—the shared belief in a school's ability to influence student achievement. The podcast suggests that "The Science of Learning" would benefit from incorporating Hattie's findings on collective efficacy, as well as other essential elements such as nuanced feedback, non-cognitive skills, and strategic learning approaches. Dr Hopkin believes that by embracing these concepts, teacher development programmes can create a more holistic and impactful approach to training educators.

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