In this episode of Turtlesmith, Scott Hess (tax and business consultant) and John Barton (small business owner) dive deep into the art of developing a scaling strategy for your business. They discuss the importance of long-term planning, from setting 1, 5, and 15-year goals to understanding when and how to scale—or when to stay comfortably at capacity.Scott and John explore practical approaches to scaling, including horizontal and vertical integration, managing supply chains, and preparing for potential exits like acquisitions or passing the business to the next generation. They share real-world examples, personal experiences, and advice on avoiding common pitfalls such as growing too fast or becoming too dependent on key individuals.Whether you’re dreaming big or aiming for “easy street,” this episode offers actionable insights for entrepreneurs and small business owners looking to build a sustainable, scalable future. Tune in for strategies, stories, and a bit of humor from two seasoned business minds.

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