Are traditional approaches to talent management holding your organisation back? Andy Goram is joined by Brice Jaggars, bestselling author of "Two Fish And The Tree," who challenges conventional thinking by arguing that aligning roles with people's natural strengths—rather than trying to fix their weaknesses—unlocks extraordinary performance. Brice shares why it's time to stop forcing fish to climb trees and how to practically create a workplace where people truly thrive.
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Key Takeaways

Strengths, Not Weaknesses: Organisations should focus on amplifying people's natural strengths instead of trying to fix weaknesses.
Role Alignment is Key: Poor performance often reflects misalignment between an individual's strengths and their job role, rather than incompetence.
Reimagining Soft Skills: Traditional methods of changing ingrained soft skills rarely succeed—better results come from leveraging people's inherent traits.
Impact on Engagement: Aligning roles to strengths significantly increases employee engagement, satisfaction, and productivity.

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Key Moments
The key moments in this episode are:
0:00:10 – Introduction: Is Traditional Talent Management Failing?
0:04:23 – Meet Brice Jaggars: The Man Challenging Talent Management Norms
0:07:45 – Why Fixing Weaknesses Doesn't Work
0:12:35 – The Fish and Tree Analogy Explained
0:15:40 – Why Organisations Struggle with Soft Skills
0:19:35 – The Neuroscience of Behaviour Change
0:24:56 – Implementing a Strength-Based Role Alignment Framework
0:30:23 – Uncovering Hidden Talents in Your Team
0:36:07 – Transformational Impact of Strength-Based Roles
0:41:18 – Changing Your Organisation’s Approach to Performance Management
0:42:55 –  Brice Jaggars' Three Sticky Notes for Talent Management
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