Josh Bowman talks with Jenna Robinson, president of the James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal. We specifically address the Martin Center’s advocacy for reforming teacher education through public policy at the state level, and especially as it pertains to reading. We also hit on the philosophy of education, indoctrination, pedagogy, and the notion of “place” in the development of teachers. 
To from the Martin Center, visit: https://jamesgmartin.center/ 
As noted, the 2026 Ciceronian Society Conference will be held March 12-14 at Creighton University in Omaha, NE. Panel and paper proposals are due September 1, 2025.
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0:00 Introduction
1:59 What the Martin Center Is
3:04 Blueprint for Reading
7:27 What Rousseau Gets Wrong
14:25 Philosophy of Education
23:18 Scientism, Contextual Knowledge
28:47 Purpose of Education
36:38 Indoctrination vs Education
44:25 Place and Teacher Education
49:45 Next Steps
 

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