When Dr. Carol Pittman rolled up her sleeves to reveal a shared love for national parks and motorcycles and a wealth of knowledge on patient engagement, we knew it was going to be an unforgettable episode. Join Justin Politi, Dave Pavlik, and Ellen Brown, as we harness our collective 90 years of healthcare expertise to discuss the heart of healthcare transformation with Carol. With laughter and personal anecdotes, we weave through the serious topic of how patients and healthcare providers can “rev up” their relationship for better outcomes. Navigating the healthcare landscape can feel like trying to find your balance on a Harley Fat Boy, but with Carol's insights, we shed light on the varying terrains of patient engagement. From the seasoned tracks of Florida's value-based care to the emerging paths in Nevada and beyond, we explore how regional experiences impact patient participation. And with COVID-19 reshaping expectations and a primary care physician shortage to boot, we dissect these challenges and the importance of building trust and co-creating treatment plans for chronic condition management. To finish it out, we underscore the parallels of successful engagement to the 'reverse mullet' philosophy —social connections (fun) in the front, medical discussion (business) in the back. Kick back, tune in, and let's continue the ride beyond the airwaves with Dr, Pittman and the BP2 Health team. Keep the conversation going and reach out through our website—this is a dialogue that's just too good to end with a podcast sign-off.

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