Jonathan Pageau joins for a conversation with Dr. Wolfgang Smith and Dr. Richard Smith about icons, symbolism and our connection to the Divine. Links to books and articles mentioned will follow the timestamps.Timestamps00:00 Opening chitchat01:20 Intro05:30 Wolfgang Smith’s Tripartite Cosmos icon12:00 Jonathan’s question about the icon20:15 Examples of 3 dimensional versions28:50 Jonathan’s icons42:40 Wolfgang responds to question about the aeviternal realm45:20 Jean Borella quote as an opening to the question of the symbolism of the Cross53:20 The connection to the Divine is what fill it with Reality, bringing up into Glory1:05:30 Without an identity, you can’t measure anything. Identity is a gift.1:15:30 The cup, the apple, identity and coherence over time an Wolfram’s Theory1:19:30 Obstacle is the gift1:27:50 The introduction of perspective in sacred art1:31:20 Wolfgang is encouraged meeting JonathanWolfgang's books (selected out of a long list)The Vertical AscentThe Quantum EnigmaCosmos and TranscendenceAncient Wisdom and Modern MisconceptionsThe new physics by Stephen Wolfram: https://wolframphysics.org

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