Ibn Arabi was a 12th-century philosopher, poet and “one of the great spiritual teachers of the Muslim world.” Both his philosophical works and his poetry have been translated countless times, most recently by Yasmine Seale and Robin Moger in their highly experimental 2022 collection “Agitated Air: Poems After Ibn Arabi.” In this podcast, the two join New Lines Magazine's Lydia Wilson to talk about the subtle yet significant differences between English and Arabic poetry, how they developed their innovative approach to co-translation and how that approach reflected the themes and ideas already present in Ibn Arabi’s original text. Produced by Joshua Martin

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