Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast with your host, Joanne Lockwood, where we delve into the issues of fairness, equity, and inclusion with the insightful Pamela Permalloo Bass.

Pamela has spent the majority of her working career in the field of diversity and inclusion, especially the NHS. For over 20 years, she has been dedicated to promoting fairness and equality in both her professional and personal life. In a time when the language of diversity, equity, and inclusion was not commonly used, Pamela has been a pioneer in the D&I space. She is passionate about creating a more inclusive and diverse world and is delighted to see more people and professionals joining her in this important work.

In this episode, Jo and Pamela explore various dimensions of fairness in the workplace, from challenges faced by business owners and employees to the intricate layers of systemic inequity within the NHS. They touch upon the impact of remote work, the evolving landscape of job roles, and the importance of recognising and addressing the disparities faced by different demographics. With candid discussions about the societal and cultural implications of language and biases, they provide a unique lens on the complexities of striving for fairness in today's world.

Key points include the significance of trust in organisations to address issues of discrimination and ensure fair treatment for all employees, the need for societal inclusivity in work cultures, and the impact of wealth distribution on creating a fair and equitable society. The conversation also touches upon Rutger Bregman's influential work on universal basic income and the concept of striving for fairness and equality in society.

The episode concludes with an exploration of the importance of inclusivity in social events, ranging from considerations around alcohol consumption to catering to diverse dietary preferences and needs. The discussion provides valuable insights and reflections on creating environments that truly embrace diversity and inclusion.

The key takeaway from this compelling conversation is the importance of understanding and respecting individual needs, perspectives, and experiences in the pursuit of fairness and equity in workplaces and society as a whole. Join Jo and Pamela on this thought-provoking journey to gain a deeper understanding of the challenges and opportunities in striving for fairness.

Make sure to tune in to this episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast and be part of the conversation around building a more inclusive and equitable world.

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