Why do most penetration tests fail to mimic a real cyberattack? Adriel Desautels, a 20-year cybersecurity veteran and founder of Netragard, reveals why the industry standard is like testing body armor with a squirt gun—and how his team uses real-world red teaming to expose the vulnerabilities that matter.In this episode, you’ll discover:· The critical difference between a vulnerability scan and a true red team engagement that uncovers how attackers actually breach systems· How a single, creatively exploited SQL injection led to a full network compromise in under four minutes· Why the rise of AI is a double-edged sword—and where human intuition still dominates in cybersecurity· The common pricing trap that reveals whether a security firm will deliver real testing or just automated scans· The story behind the slogan "We protect you from people like us" and the ethical line that defines his workFor engineers, developers, and IT leaders who want to move beyond check-box security.Connect With Adriel Desautels:· Website: https://netragard.com· LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrieldesautelsChapters:00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and Adriel's Journey12:16 The Evolution of Cybersecurity Practices25:11 The Impact of AI on Cybersecurity30:28 Common Misconceptions in Cybersecurity36:39 Lessons from Failure and Innovation in CybersecuritySupport the Show:· Fuel the podcast: https://iferia.nestuge.com/supportme· Subscribe and leave a review!· ShareWant to Be a Guest on The Iferia TechCast?· Reach out to Ezekiel on PodMatch· PodMatch Host Profile: https://podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theiferiatechcast

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