Youch! We've had lots going on and we've been missing in action, but we wanted to finish the year with an extra special bonus!

This episode contains a conversation we released just for our Patreon supporters a few months ago. It's a discussion between Jo and Rane, where we talk about a few life updates, as well as Rane answering a few questions about his cancer experience, and how Yoga really helped.

We also talked about our side projects, Jo's book and Rane's app.

Since this was recorded Rane has also started work on another app, but more on that later...

We wish you a very happy Christmas and New Year!!

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