Can you win without defeating someone? Gareth and Jett get into it with Luca Guadagnino's new new action, (and love), packed tennis picture Challengers. Along the way they delve into James Cameron's The Abyss, sing the praises of Hovis Bread commercials, recommend Ridley Scott's The Duelists and Walter Hill's Charles Bronson-starring Hard Times and pull the curtain back a little into their conceptions of what love really means. Apple - The Film Talk Spotify - The Film Talk Facebook.com/TheFilmTalk To contact Jett and Gareth go to: [email protected] Or leave a voicemail message at: Speakpipe.com/TheFilmTalk To see on Threads what Jett is getting up to: Threads.net/@jett_loe

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