s your church starving for care or clarity? Too often, pastors feel torn between preaching the Word and shepherding the people, but the truth is, your church can’t thrive without both. In this episode of the Enduring Church Podcast, Nathan and Michael unpack how this false divide has weakened churches and burned out leaders. They dive into why preaching is shepherding, how to build a team that helps meet real needs, and what time management looks like when you’re carrying the spiritual weight of a congregation. If you’ve ever felt like you can’t do it all, you’re right. But there’s a better way forward.

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