In this episode, I’m joined by Jori VanAntwerp, Founder & CEO of EmberOT, to talk about the real-world realities of industrial cybersecurity - far beyond the buzzwords.Jori shares his journey from tech leadership to building EmberOT, and offers a sharp perspective on what’s actually broken in how vendors, academia, and the wider industry approach OT security.We dig into:🏭 Why so many OT solutions miss the mark - and who’s paying the price📉 The disconnect between policy-driven certs and practical, operational outcomes🧠 Why terms like “IT/OT convergence” are often more confusing than helpful🛠️ What needs to change for the industry to truly move forward - and who’s responsible for leading itThis one’s a must-listen if you're serious about industrial cybersecurity, protecting critical infrastructure, or simply tired of the jargon and ready for clarity.

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