In this episode of The CyberVault, I’m joined by Raj Umadas from Rad Security and Matt Mock from Redox - two leaders who’ve lived the AI security challenge from every angle: as CISOs, as builders, and as practitioners trying to modernize without breaking everything.2025 has been the year of the AI land-grab - and security teams have been pulled straight into the middle. In this conversation, we unpack what it actually takes to build AI securely, how CISOs balance speed with trust, and why staying “modern” in security is harder than ever.We explore:🤖 Why security teams always become the testing ground for new AI initiatives⚖️ What really makes building AI securely so difficult in practice🚀 How CISOs balance innovation pressure with accountability and risk🔄 How perspectives on AI risk shift between internal teams and vendors📉 Why trust in AI isn’t static - and how drift changes everything🧠 Whether AI committees and task forces are solving real problems🔮 What continuous reassessment looks like as we head into 2026If you’re navigating AI rollout, governance, or security leadership in fast-moving environments, this episode offers an honest, no-fluff look at the reality behind the hype.

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