In this episode, Matt speaks with Sean Speer about the rise of the so-called “New Right” and the growing tension between conservatism and classical liberalism. Speer defends a fusionist vision rooted in ordered liberty, pluralism, and institutional restraint, arguing that attempts to use state power to impose cultural outcomes misunderstand how culture actually evolves. Together, they explore elite anxiety, civil society, immigration, and why liberal means remain essential even for those with conservative ends.
References
Sean's author page at The Hub:
https://thehub.ca/author/seanspeer/ 
What Is Conservatism? — edited by Frank S. Meyer
https://a.co/d/5suzcP4 
The Road to Serfdom — F. A. Hayek
https://a.co/d/evGqw3L 
The Crooked Timber of Humanity — Isaiah Berlin
https://a.co/d/4PuAvLB 
Bourgeois Dignity / Bourgeois Equality — Deirdre McCloskey
https://a.co/d/8B7qlQV 
The Anywhere vs Somewhere Divide — David Goodhart (interview)
https://www.commonplace.org/p/somewheres-and-anywheres-with-david 
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