The quintessential 80’s action film Top Gun appears to be a cultural litmus test – everyone seems to think it’s either abysmal or amazing and not much in between. Matt’s on Team Cruise, but Kevin thinks the entire movie is… boring. And underwhelming. And just plain dumb to the point that he wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. 

Why? Because there’s no real problem in the whole movie. Everything is just too low stakes. Matt thinks the Cold War context and Maverick’s nature are enough. The redemption story just didn’t do it for Kevin.

They agree on the supremacy of casting and a great soundtrack, and Matt thinks it’s an exceptional time capsule of sorts. But he’s got a love/hate relationship with Top Gun after it made for the worst date of his entire life.

Kevin wants to talk about Neil deGrasse Tyson’s singular Twitter style, which seems to be offending as many people as possible. Is NDT wrong? Not usually, no – but that’s not the point. And Matt just isn’t interested in anyone’s opinion on anything.

Conrad asks us about the Creator Clash, which everyone agrees was a tremendous success. The athletic side worked, the entertainment side worked. And as they talk about future Clashes, they hatch a plan so crazy that it just might work.

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