In this episode of the Courageous Leaders Podcast, I speak with Rob Doubal and Laurence (Lolly) Thomson, Global CCOs at M&C Saatchi.With 17 years of collaboration, they share lessons on leadership, creativity, and adaptability, from their McCann days to leading at M&C Saatchi.We dive into embracing risk, building strong team dynamics, and unlocking the value of creative leadership. If you're a leader or creative looking to grow, this episode is full of valuable insights.We Cover: 05:55 - How setbacks can lead to exciting opportunities11:14 - The importance of adaptable leadership and adjusting styles for different jobs13:14 - Fostering environments where ideas thrive and innovation leads the way16:13 - How creativity separates successful from unsuccessful businesses18:15 - How to put Creativity at the Heart of the Agency21:02 - Balancing Vulnerability and Creativity24:16 - The key questions to ask in an interview27:01 - How their strengths help solve problems faster and work efficiently33:33 - Why successful teams need diverse perspectives and shared goals35:25 - The learning from working with multiple CEO's 36:32 - Understanding the value of different leadership styles.39:49 - How effective leadership balances motivation, organisation, and pressure.45:30 - Recognising that big change takes time, while managing the urge to dive in immediately50:52 - Keep Learning and Keep breaking 55:48 - Explaining Risk: A simple yet powerful ‘puddle’ metaphor for LeadershipDon’t miss out on this powerful episode. 👍 Stay inspired by joining our YouTube community! Click the link, hit the subscribe button, leave a comment, and never miss an episode. Your support helps us empower courageous leaders like you!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2kZ-x8fDHKEVb222qpQ_NQ 🚀 Elevate Your Leadership:Book a call for transformative leadership and team coaching:Website: https://thechangecreators.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannahowes/ → Join our newsletter for courageous leadership insights and advice. 👉 Subscribe here: https://the-change-creators.kit.com/1a5f3c9e54

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