Listen "Dr. Bhrett McCabe Embraces Failures to Overcome Challenges"
Episode Synopsis
Dr. Bhrett McCabe, the founder of The MindSide, explains that success comes from embracing your challenges and learning from them to develop an emotionally disciplined mentality. Dr. McCabe discusses developing an organized mind and encourages you to pinpoint who you are and what you want to achieve. Relate to his work with world-class athletes to create goals for your game of life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Klwoah1A0&list=PLbvB0kVmlTP7mo99UtYan6rAaz5uNOzyN&index=1
Bhrett McCabe
Brett Gilliland: All right, we're live here. It says, okay, we're recording. Awesome, man. Well, any, okay, I'll get started here and we'll get rocking. Um, all right. Uh,
Welcome to the Circuit of Success. I'm your host, Brett Gilland. Today I've got another Bhrett with me, Bhrett McCabe. Dr. Brett McCabe. How you doing, Brett?
Bhrett McCabe: Great. Thanks for having me.
Brett Gilliland: Hey, it's awesome to be with you, man. We, uh, were talking, before we started recording, we got a mutual friend that we didn't know we had a mutual friend, uh, Greg Larkin, Titleist rep down there in Birmingham, used to be here in the Edwardsville Fallon area. So you tell, uh, you tell Greg Larkin, I said, hello.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Oh, will and he to drop off some more golf balls for me on occasion.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah, he is. Uh, are they allocated down there for you guys too? It's funny, our country club, they're allocated, man. It's like bourbon.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Yeah. Not only allocated, I mean, they're allocated like bourbon is, so just gotta fight like hell to find him.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah, it's crazy, absolutely crazy. So, well good, man. I just wanted to, uh, you know, let our listeners learn more about you. I always like to start with kinda what's made you the man you are today. I know that's a big question and, and a really open wide question, but just wanna start with that, of what's made you the man you are today?
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Uh, you know, I was very fortunate to be raised in a great family. My dad was military and my mom and, and uh, um, my dad was, was an only child. And, you know, there was a lot of organizational structure there. There was driven, if you set your mind to it, you go, well, you don't stop halfway. Um, his dad was a, had a third grade education, was a carpenter, and both of his sons, um, my, my grandmother was German.
They were a little older when they had kids way back when. Um, both of their sons are retired military. Um, my dad was a pharmacist with a degree in chemistry. My uncle has a couple MIT master's degrees, uh, in chemical engineer, uh, civil and um, and, uh, mechanical engineering. So very, very smart in the Navy.
Um, and so it was a culture that was driven. And then my mom was very much into that as well, which was, you know, if you're gonna do something, you go all the way. You, you don't, you don't wait for other people to approve what you're doing, and you don't wait for other people to congratulate you on the back.
You set your mind towards something and you work your tail off and yeah, you learn and grow and learn from people around you. And, uh, that's what, that's what I did. And so that was the culture. It's like if you're gonna do something, you win and you win the right way. You do things the right way. Um, and you don't make excuses because nobody cares.
Nobody cares . And then the other thing too is my dad also also taught me, he, you know, in the military, what he did, he did a lot of work with people who did really cool stuff like, and he did a lot of really cool stuff, right. And it's just the military way is important stuff. And uh, he's like, you gotta learn to stand in the shadows.
There are too many people in my field and coaching and whatever, who, when a client has success, they find the camera, the spotlight. They take pictures of themselves celebrating it because it's not about the player or the client, it's about them to show the world Yeah. What they do and how to cross market that.
And my dad was always like, you know, the work that we did, you were gone before the press conference ever started and we were already onto the next thing. Nobody cares, that's your job. Do your job. And so his thing was, you stand in the shadow. So I think that was a culture that served me for my clients.
Like, um, I work with some of the best players in the world in golf, um, and I work with the best athletic department in the country when it comes to college sports. And it's, uh, it's not, I, I hope, I hope I've never had to look at a player and say, A player said, 'Why'd you make it about you?'
Brett Gilliland: Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing.
And it is, it's, it is cool. Cause I, I actually was introduced to you by a coach, um, a buddy of mine as a division one basketball coach, and, and he said, man, you gotta follow this guy. And so I started following you and listening to your stuff. And, uh, but it is cool because I watch golf all the time and, and you are working with some of the biggest players in the game.
But yet to your point, you, you, I would never have known that. Right. I never would've known that. And I think that's really...
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: That's the greatest complement you could give me
Brett Gilliland: ...Really cool so, yeah. Yeah.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: You know, it, it's, I, I think. You know, I want a player who calls me because they want me to work with them, not because I'm gonna use it to market to a company or a, an association.
Like if, if, if a business wants me to come, they know I'll work. I'm the psychologist for Alabama. Right? Yeah. Okay. You know how many people come through the University of Alabama and put their, try to put their stamp on it and then use it to market? I've, I've been sitting in workshops and seeing people say, well, when I was this, and I was, I'm like, you've never been there.
Like, literally, I learned that very early on. What, what got me was about 15 years ago, I was sitting in a Barnes and Noble and I opened up a book in golf, golf psychology, and two mental coaches had written a book, and both of them had the same elite player write a prologue, and the prologue was identical. I literally couldn't believe it.
Brett Gilliland: Wow.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: I want my players to know that, hey, if I need something, he's gonna answer the phone, and it's genuine and authentic. Yeah. And they pay me well, I don't, I mean, it's an exchange of services, right? The services are, is what we do, and I want somebody to know that I'm there for 'em, for their, for the reason they hired me.
Um, in, in the social media world and everything we do right, is, you know, people will post a picture outside the building. And, and I, I remember watching a, a guy years ago who did this. It was like the, a draft was going on a major league baseball draft. And he kept posting my guy, my guy, my guy. And I remember another middle coach said, I've been working with that kid for six years.
And he said, it's his guy. The kid was in a workshop one time. One time.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: And, and so I just, integrity means the world to me, and we're all competing. But the ultimate value is when a player tells you, 'thank you', and you know, it is genuine and, I- that, so when you say that, that is the greatest thing to me, that it means that I'm doing it the right way, which I want my content to be currency. I don't want my connections to be currency.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah. And wouldn't you probably, I mean, I assume you agree and so, and I didn't say this earlier, but you are a clinical and sports psychologist. You're the, uh, the founder of The Mind Side, PhD from LSU. You played baseball at LSU, win two national championships, uh, obviously working with Alabama and, and other, you know, sports guys that I won't name. Um, but you know, the P G A L P G a, major League baseball, I mean all these places, right? Phenomenal stuff.
But I do genuinely believe and feel that, that you are the guy you say you are, which is really, really cool. But would you also not agree that those guys probably refer you to the next guy, right, because of that and who you are?
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Well, that's, and that the ultimate sign of respect, right? When somebody says, like, my financial guy is that way, Yeah, my financial guy is a list of clients that I know because I, how I got to him was because of that. And the financial guys and, and this guy is very well respected among professional athletes and it's never about him.
And it's, you walk in his room, there's not one picture of one of his athletes, not one. There's a picture with him, with the president of the United States. And because he is like, that's always a great honor. There's a picture with him and his parents and his kids and his thing was, my credential should be on somebody giving me a recommendation.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: When somebody says, this is where I want you to go. And, and that's what I want. And, and you know, I have a, a player, one of my tour players and, and he said this to people, say, well, what do you and Bhrett work on? He's like, I don't know. I don't know, but I know that when we work on a much better head space.
And I said, that's a great compliment because I'm not giving you, here are the six hottest things to work on in the mental game. I, my whole philosophy is built upon the psychological fingerprint of the person I'm dealing with. You and I are, we have the same name. We're completely different. Okay. Mom was a twin sister, but, and an identical twin couldn't tell 'em apart until they were in their twenties.
And they were different. They had different backgrounds, meaning my mom was the older, her sister was the younger. There's a dynamic shift, right? And so we have to understand the people we work with, and it takes a lot of vulnerability people to open up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Klwoah1A0&list=PLbvB0kVmlTP7mo99UtYan6rAaz5uNOzyN&index=1
Bhrett McCabe
Brett Gilliland: All right, we're live here. It says, okay, we're recording. Awesome, man. Well, any, okay, I'll get started here and we'll get rocking. Um, all right. Uh,
Welcome to the Circuit of Success. I'm your host, Brett Gilland. Today I've got another Bhrett with me, Bhrett McCabe. Dr. Brett McCabe. How you doing, Brett?
Bhrett McCabe: Great. Thanks for having me.
Brett Gilliland: Hey, it's awesome to be with you, man. We, uh, were talking, before we started recording, we got a mutual friend that we didn't know we had a mutual friend, uh, Greg Larkin, Titleist rep down there in Birmingham, used to be here in the Edwardsville Fallon area. So you tell, uh, you tell Greg Larkin, I said, hello.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Oh, will and he to drop off some more golf balls for me on occasion.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah, he is. Uh, are they allocated down there for you guys too? It's funny, our country club, they're allocated, man. It's like bourbon.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Yeah. Not only allocated, I mean, they're allocated like bourbon is, so just gotta fight like hell to find him.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah, it's crazy, absolutely crazy. So, well good, man. I just wanted to, uh, you know, let our listeners learn more about you. I always like to start with kinda what's made you the man you are today. I know that's a big question and, and a really open wide question, but just wanna start with that, of what's made you the man you are today?
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Uh, you know, I was very fortunate to be raised in a great family. My dad was military and my mom and, and uh, um, my dad was, was an only child. And, you know, there was a lot of organizational structure there. There was driven, if you set your mind to it, you go, well, you don't stop halfway. Um, his dad was a, had a third grade education, was a carpenter, and both of his sons, um, my, my grandmother was German.
They were a little older when they had kids way back when. Um, both of their sons are retired military. Um, my dad was a pharmacist with a degree in chemistry. My uncle has a couple MIT master's degrees, uh, in chemical engineer, uh, civil and um, and, uh, mechanical engineering. So very, very smart in the Navy.
Um, and so it was a culture that was driven. And then my mom was very much into that as well, which was, you know, if you're gonna do something, you go all the way. You, you don't, you don't wait for other people to approve what you're doing, and you don't wait for other people to congratulate you on the back.
You set your mind towards something and you work your tail off and yeah, you learn and grow and learn from people around you. And, uh, that's what, that's what I did. And so that was the culture. It's like if you're gonna do something, you win and you win the right way. You do things the right way. Um, and you don't make excuses because nobody cares.
Nobody cares . And then the other thing too is my dad also also taught me, he, you know, in the military, what he did, he did a lot of work with people who did really cool stuff like, and he did a lot of really cool stuff, right. And it's just the military way is important stuff. And uh, he's like, you gotta learn to stand in the shadows.
There are too many people in my field and coaching and whatever, who, when a client has success, they find the camera, the spotlight. They take pictures of themselves celebrating it because it's not about the player or the client, it's about them to show the world Yeah. What they do and how to cross market that.
And my dad was always like, you know, the work that we did, you were gone before the press conference ever started and we were already onto the next thing. Nobody cares, that's your job. Do your job. And so his thing was, you stand in the shadow. So I think that was a culture that served me for my clients.
Like, um, I work with some of the best players in the world in golf, um, and I work with the best athletic department in the country when it comes to college sports. And it's, uh, it's not, I, I hope, I hope I've never had to look at a player and say, A player said, 'Why'd you make it about you?'
Brett Gilliland: Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing.
And it is, it's, it is cool. Cause I, I actually was introduced to you by a coach, um, a buddy of mine as a division one basketball coach, and, and he said, man, you gotta follow this guy. And so I started following you and listening to your stuff. And, uh, but it is cool because I watch golf all the time and, and you are working with some of the biggest players in the game.
But yet to your point, you, you, I would never have known that. Right. I never would've known that. And I think that's really...
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: That's the greatest complement you could give me
Brett Gilliland: ...Really cool so, yeah. Yeah.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: You know, it, it's, I, I think. You know, I want a player who calls me because they want me to work with them, not because I'm gonna use it to market to a company or a, an association.
Like if, if, if a business wants me to come, they know I'll work. I'm the psychologist for Alabama. Right? Yeah. Okay. You know how many people come through the University of Alabama and put their, try to put their stamp on it and then use it to market? I've, I've been sitting in workshops and seeing people say, well, when I was this, and I was, I'm like, you've never been there.
Like, literally, I learned that very early on. What, what got me was about 15 years ago, I was sitting in a Barnes and Noble and I opened up a book in golf, golf psychology, and two mental coaches had written a book, and both of them had the same elite player write a prologue, and the prologue was identical. I literally couldn't believe it.
Brett Gilliland: Wow.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: I want my players to know that, hey, if I need something, he's gonna answer the phone, and it's genuine and authentic. Yeah. And they pay me well, I don't, I mean, it's an exchange of services, right? The services are, is what we do, and I want somebody to know that I'm there for 'em, for their, for the reason they hired me.
Um, in, in the social media world and everything we do right, is, you know, people will post a picture outside the building. And, and I, I remember watching a, a guy years ago who did this. It was like the, a draft was going on a major league baseball draft. And he kept posting my guy, my guy, my guy. And I remember another middle coach said, I've been working with that kid for six years.
And he said, it's his guy. The kid was in a workshop one time. One time.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: And, and so I just, integrity means the world to me, and we're all competing. But the ultimate value is when a player tells you, 'thank you', and you know, it is genuine and, I- that, so when you say that, that is the greatest thing to me, that it means that I'm doing it the right way, which I want my content to be currency. I don't want my connections to be currency.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah. And wouldn't you probably, I mean, I assume you agree and so, and I didn't say this earlier, but you are a clinical and sports psychologist. You're the, uh, the founder of The Mind Side, PhD from LSU. You played baseball at LSU, win two national championships, uh, obviously working with Alabama and, and other, you know, sports guys that I won't name. Um, but you know, the P G A L P G a, major League baseball, I mean all these places, right? Phenomenal stuff.
But I do genuinely believe and feel that, that you are the guy you say you are, which is really, really cool. But would you also not agree that those guys probably refer you to the next guy, right, because of that and who you are?
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: Well, that's, and that the ultimate sign of respect, right? When somebody says, like, my financial guy is that way, Yeah, my financial guy is a list of clients that I know because I, how I got to him was because of that. And the financial guys and, and this guy is very well respected among professional athletes and it's never about him.
And it's, you walk in his room, there's not one picture of one of his athletes, not one. There's a picture with him, with the president of the United States. And because he is like, that's always a great honor. There's a picture with him and his parents and his kids and his thing was, my credential should be on somebody giving me a recommendation.
Brett Gilliland: Yeah.
Dr. Bhrett McCabe: When somebody says, this is where I want you to go. And, and that's what I want. And, and you know, I have a, a player, one of my tour players and, and he said this to people, say, well, what do you and Bhrett work on? He's like, I don't know. I don't know, but I know that when we work on a much better head space.
And I said, that's a great compliment because I'm not giving you, here are the six hottest things to work on in the mental game. I, my whole philosophy is built upon the psychological fingerprint of the person I'm dealing with. You and I are, we have the same name. We're completely different. Okay. Mom was a twin sister, but, and an identical twin couldn't tell 'em apart until they were in their twenties.
And they were different. They had different backgrounds, meaning my mom was the older, her sister was the younger. There's a dynamic shift, right? And so we have to understand the people we work with, and it takes a lot of vulnerability people to open up.
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