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Episode Synopsis
WARNING - EXPLICIT LANGUAGE ALERT - This is the eighteenth episode of Season 2 of The Broke Architect Podcast!
This show is brought to you by the Global Architect Alliance (GAA). In this episode, we talk with Erin Pellegrino.
Erin is a strategist, designer and registered architect with a decade of experience in the fields of design, business development and creative consulting. She currently works as the founder and principal of Matter, a design firm that solves problems that span from brand and digital experiences to the built environment. She is also the co-founder of Out of Architecture, a career consulting firm that helps designers explore non-traditional methods of practice.Erin has taught widely in architecture and design fields at universities including Harvard, Cornell, Parsons, The City University of New York and the New Jersey Institute of Technology. She holds an M.Arch II from Harvard University's Graduate School of Design, a Bachelor of Architecture from Cornell University and her MBA from Quantic School of Business and Technology. She has also worked for Tod Williams and Billie Tsien and Studio Gang.
Erin then began "Out Of Architecture" with Jake Rudin which is a Career consulting firm that helps you leverage the full value of your design education, in any field. They have also written a book, published by Routledge and have a podcast called Tangents. In this episode, we explore the reasons you might want to consider an alternative career using the skills that that architecture degree taught you and how you would go about doing this.
In this episode, she calls out the bullshxt in architecture. We discuss unpaid internships at Starchitect firms, the cost of education, how she manages debt, pay, value, lack of diversity and building successful businesses.
Erin's socials:
LinkedIn Profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-pellegrino/)
Practice: https://www.studio-matter.com
Out of Architecture Website (www.outofarchitecture.com)
Out of Architecture Instagram (www.instagram.com/outofarchitecture)
Out of Architecture LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/out-of-architecture/)
Out of Architecture Patreon
This show is brought to you by the Global Architect Alliance (GAA). In this episode, we talk with Erin Pellegrino.
Erin is a strategist, designer and registered architect with a decade of experience in the fields of design, business development and creative consulting. She currently works as the founder and principal of Matter, a design firm that solves problems that span from brand and digital experiences to the built environment. She is also the co-founder of Out of Architecture, a career consulting firm that helps designers explore non-traditional methods of practice.Erin has taught widely in architecture and design fields at universities including Harvard, Cornell, Parsons, The City University of New York and the New Jersey Institute of Technology. She holds an M.Arch II from Harvard University's Graduate School of Design, a Bachelor of Architecture from Cornell University and her MBA from Quantic School of Business and Technology. She has also worked for Tod Williams and Billie Tsien and Studio Gang.
Erin then began "Out Of Architecture" with Jake Rudin which is a Career consulting firm that helps you leverage the full value of your design education, in any field. They have also written a book, published by Routledge and have a podcast called Tangents. In this episode, we explore the reasons you might want to consider an alternative career using the skills that that architecture degree taught you and how you would go about doing this.
In this episode, she calls out the bullshxt in architecture. We discuss unpaid internships at Starchitect firms, the cost of education, how she manages debt, pay, value, lack of diversity and building successful businesses.
Erin's socials:
LinkedIn Profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-pellegrino/)
Practice: https://www.studio-matter.com
Out of Architecture Website (www.outofarchitecture.com)
Out of Architecture Instagram (www.instagram.com/outofarchitecture)
Out of Architecture LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/out-of-architecture/)
Out of Architecture Patreon
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