Come and chat with two Australians (Dr Kate Johnson and Dr Ella Plumanns Pouton) on a bench in Catalunya, that may or may not be covered in ants! Ella talks about fire and seed banks, shifts in research, moving countries and writing science for the public. After an arts degree, Ella was driven to science through a desire to enact positive change for the natural world, particularly in a changing climate. Ella’s PhD revealed the impact of different fire frequencies on the seeds of diverse plant species in Australia, and she now works on rewilding and restoration of biodiversity at the Ecological and Forestry Applications Research Centre (CREAF) in Barcelona, Spain. In this episode you’ll hear about Ella’s research, publishing in ‘The Conversation’, when jargon is useful and when it’s not, how much slang Australians use, and more, take a listen! Show theme music: Kevin MacLeodHost: Dr Kate Johnson (@KatePlantPhys)Production: Hannah Moore (@HannahCMoore)Media & Promotion: Ella Burgun

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