David Heinemeier Hansson is the creator of Ruby on Rails, founder & CTO at Basecamp (formerly 37signals). He's a best selling author, public speaker, and even a Le Mans class winning racing driver.

All of that, of course, is awesome. But that's not why I asked him on the show. In 2014, during a RailsConf keynote, he started a discussion about damage caused by TDD. This was followed by a few blog posts, and then a series of recorded hangouts with Martin Fowler and Kent Beck. This is what I wanted to talk with David about; this unconventional yet practical and intuitive view of how testing and development work together.

It's a great discussion. I think you'll get a lot out of it.Special Guest: David Heinemeier Hansson.Links:Is TDD dead? - Part 1My reaction to "Is TDD Dead?", including links to the other parts of the video seriesRailsConf 2014 - Keynote: Writing Software by David Heinemeier Hansson - YouTubeTDD is dead. Long live testing. (DHH)Test-induced design damage (DHH)Slow database test fallacy (DHH)

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