Justin and Jason discuss Justin's upcoming move back to LA, an update on Appignite, avoiding depression while not running a $1B company, the new Pluggio UI and why some existing customers don't like it, Company 52's new focus, Jason's thoughts on Steve Job's biography, the new interview format, how Jason bought some Facebook shares, Mesh01's upcoming design competition for a "luck surface area" t-shirt, the aborted SpaceX launch, why Steve Blank thinks the age of Silicon Valley is over, when a blow to the head creates a sudden genius, the Reproducibility Project, the genetic basis for why Jason talks so much and the progress being made on AnyFu.

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