We connect with Sadie—president of Recovering Hope, teacher, mom, and accidental bridge builder—to trace how a rough high school experience, a hesitant return home, and an eye for what people actually need evolved into a 108-bed women’s treatment center with on-site childcare and a thriving team of 120. No buzzwords, no lectures—just candid stories about starting from zero, expanding with intention, and measuring success by the lives you can see changing.We talk about what schools get wrong when they punish addiction, why DARE-style scare tactics miss the mark, and how “helpful vs unhelpful coping” beats the myth of willpower every time. Sadie breaks down identity in long-term sobriety, the power of behavioral activation (yes, even a dog walk counts), and how purpose becomes a sustainable alternative to craving. She shares candidly about spiritual detours—from Lutheran roots to a Basilica confirmation—and how a higher power can be as simple as the doorknob that opens the next right room.This conversation is also a masterclass in practical leadership: turning stigma-laced complaints into a pedestrian bridge, lobbying for smarter health policy, teaching and mentoring without burning out, and using energy audits to delegate what drains you. If you care about addiction recovery, mental health, women’s healthcare, community design, or just keeping your own sparkle alive, you’ll find tools and the courage to use them. Hit follow, share this with someone who needs a hopeful nudge, and leave a quick review—what’s one helpful swap you’re making this week?0:00 Old Friends, New Questions4:10 The Song That Reconnects a Past8:35 Returning Home and Leading Recovery16:50 Building a Treatment Center from Zero24:30 Why Addiction Counseling Chose Her31:40 Punishment vs. Care in Schools38:15 Beyond DARE: What Actually Helps45:10 Meeting People Where They Are52:00 Purpose, Identity, and Long-Term Sobriety1:00:10 Spiritual Pivots and Trusting the Process

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