In this heartfelt conversation on Spiral We Radio, Laura Schonberg shares her journey from alternative education to district leadership, exploring what it truly means for learners to feel safe enough to learn. She speaks with Dr. Karen Arnstein and Dr. Barry Gelston about dysregulation, trauma, and the invisible pressures shaping classrooms today. Together, they unpack the tension between data-driven systems and human connection, the myth of the “ideal student,” and how empathy begins with authenticity. Laura’s stories—from learners under desks to twice-exceptional teens outpacing the curriculum—reveal why safety, trust, and belonging are the first steps toward any meaningful education.

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