67: Therapeutic Journeys: Brandon on RLT and Relationship Dynamics

07/07/2025 34 min
67: Therapeutic Journeys: Brandon on RLT and Relationship Dynamics

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Send us a textJason Polk, a seasoned therapist specializing in couples therapy, hosts Brandon Schwartz, LCSW, from Colorado Relationship Recovery on the podcast. Brandon shares his journey of becoming a therapist, influenced by overcoming bullying, depression, and a transformative experience with his own therapist in middle school. He discusses his educational path, shifting from a desire to join the Marines to pursuing psychology, eventually finding his passion in couples therapy. The conversation touches on the modalities of Relational Life Therapy (RLT) and its differences from other therapies, the concept of grandiosity and narcissism in relationships, and the profound impact therapy can have on personal and relational growth. Brandon emphasizes the importance of empathy, accountability, and differentiation in therapy, explaining why he finds his work both revolutionary and rewarding.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:09 Brandon's Journey to Becoming a Therapist02:47 High School and College Experiences04:04 Choosing Marriage and Family Therapy05:36 Impactful Therapy Experience09:02 Relational Life Therapy (RLT) and Couples Work13:57 First and Second Order Change in Therapy15:34 Family Influence and Accountability18:28 Understanding Human Behavior in Therapy19:20 The Importance of Self-Realization20:22 Personal Wake-Up Calls22:21 The Role of Direct Feedback25:31 Defining Narcissism in Therapy31:51 The Revolutionary Impact of Couples TherapyTo learn more about Brandon and work with him, visit his About page.