In episode 2, we talk about the new MITRE D3FEND framework and an internal project at Krit to answer the question, "What defines good design in InfoSec?" We also touch on marketing strategy, learning not to overcommit, expanding your team, camping, and exit plans.(0:21) Andrew is giving Sean major FOMO.(3:04) An empty office: You don’t know what you’re missing until it’s gone.(4:20) Only a part of us misses having an in-person team.(6:23) Hiring Notice: Sean’s looking for a project manager.(7:22) Our Take on the MITRE’s D3FEND Framework(10:15)  Lukewarm take: People should have free reign on their personal accounts and trademarking common words isn’t cool.(12:13)  MITRE’s D3FEND Framework: Is it Useful?(16:19) How do you even define a good product?(24:44) Marketing Strategy: Designing a good product can be mad hard.(28:01) Sean’s method of evaluating products: Finding the Drop-Off(28:58) Andrew tries to convince Sean to go camping.(30:10) The Rite of Passage as an Agency Owner: Learning to not overcommit(34:22) Andrew’s Exit Plans: Make Krit’s culture so awesome, there isn’t a need for an exit plan. (39:23) Our Small Efforts Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing. Links:- Sean's Twitter: @seanqsun- Andrew's Twitter: @AndrewAskins- Hatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/ For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.

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