It's an all out offensive on today's episode while we talk about how the best defense is a good offense. But before we plan our attack, we need to know our vulnerabilities, and that's where our guest comes in.   On this episode, hosts Nic Fillingham and Natalia Godyla are joined by Will Pearce, who discusses his role as AI Red Team Lead from the Azure Trustworthy ML Group and how he works to find weaknesses in security infrastructure to better develop ways to prevent against attacks.   In This Episode You Will Learn:   The three main functions of counterfeit   Why the best defense is a good offense  Why Will and his team aren't worried about showing their hand by releasing this software as open source   Some Questions We Ask:   What previously developed infrastructure was the counterfeit tool built upon?  How AI red teaming differs from traditional specops red teaming  How did the counterfeit project evolve from conception to release?  Resources:   Will Pearce's LinkedIn AI security risk assessment using Counterfit  Microsoft Security Blog Nic's LinkedIn Natalia's LinkedIn    Related: Listen to: Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson Listen to: Security Unlocked: CISO Series with Bret Arsenault  Security Unlocked is produced by Microsoft and distributed as part of The CyberWire Network. 

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