Viet Thanh Nguyen, the author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel The Sympathizer talks with Reza about growing up in San Jose, identifying as a refugee writer, and learning to write for himself. Thao Nguyen (from Thao and the Get Down Stay Down) joins them to talk about the internal Orient/Occident divide, and then she plays her song “Age of Ice.” Watch Rough Draft and other Topic shows on the Apple TV app. Go to apple.co/topic to get your free 7-day trial. Follow Viet Thanh Nguyen @viet_t_nguyen Follow Thao Nguyen @thaogetstaydown Rough Draft is a Topic Original Series. Hosted by Reza Aslan Executive Produced by Reza Aslan, David Andreone, Alfredo de Villa, and Safa Samieyazde’-Yazd. Executive Producers for Topic, Ryan Chanatry, Anna Holmes, and Gena Konstantinakos. Production aid from Russell Sperberg. Music and Theme by Jacob Snider. Sound by Sean Oakley. Editing and mixing by Will Stanton, with additional editing by Blake V. Twitter | @roughdraftreza Facebook | Rough Draft with Reza Aslan Follow Reza @rezaaslan Email us at [email protected] For transcripts and full credits, head to https://www.topic.com/rough-draft-podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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