RC2C host Neil Scott begins this podcast with a tribute to legendary actor Sir Anthony Hopkins, who just celebrated his 49th sober birthday. Neil then visits with NY Times best-selling author JA Jance, whose character JP Beaumont is a former Seattle homicide detective, who dealt with his drinking by going into treatment in book 8. The new book 'Den of Iniquity' is book 26, and Beau is a grateful (fictional charachter) in long term recovery.  Although Judy is not in recovery, she spent  years with a practicing alcoholic husband, who died from his disease. Judy wrote a poignant book of poetery - After the Fire - which has become a best seller. Judy Jance will read from that book, as well, in this podcast.  And the podcast concludes with some inspirational words about recovery from award-winning actress Ali McGraw.

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