Co-CEOs, No Managers, and Zero Loyalty — How to Navigate “Work 2.0”

03/11/2025 36 min
Co-CEOs, No Managers, and Zero Loyalty — How to Navigate “Work 2.0”

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In this episode, Kaila and Kyle discuss the demise of the traditional corporate structure—from co-CEOs, to the elimination of middle managers, and even the death of workplace loyalty. It seems like everything we know about the way companies are organized are changing, so what does this mean for you?

00:00 Intro

01:43 What’s unique about this moment in time for workplaces

04:36 A possible explanation for why these company structures keep changing

07:46 The AT&T memo and how workplace loyalty has changed

13:18 So what comes next for corporate structures?

14:25 “The Dead Economy Theory” 

17:08 The example of Zappos’ “holacracy” 

22:38 What you can do to brace yourself in this evolving landscape

This episode was sponsored by Superhuman.  You can check out Superhuman today at superhuman.com/podcast. 

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Each week on Per My Last Email, Morning Brew’s resident career experts Kaila and Kyle – whose careers have collectively spanned the corporate, government, nonprofit and startup sectors – debate the trickiest challenges in work life, and share tactics on how to overcome them. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app!
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