What if “I’m fine” was just a mask?In this episode, Gissell and Charleston unpack the emotional toll of pretending to be okay. They explore how a simple smile can hide exhaustion, pain, and deep loneliness — especially for those who’ve learned to perform strength just to survive.From performative resilience to people-pleasing, they speak honestly about the cost of holding it all together and what it really means to check in with yourself and others.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/patio-talks/donations

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