SUMMARY In this rich and layered episode, Michelle Kinder and Chris Kent Phelps kick things off with a heartfelt introduction before handing the mic to Robert and Michelle for a deep, honest conversation about what it truly takes to support students—and the adults who serve them. They explore the power of representation, the importance of relationships, and the role adult behavior plays in shaping student outcomes. From there, Chris and Michelle come back to unpack the conversation, highlighting the threads of emotional resilience, high expectations, and the need for educators to care for themselves as they care for others. Together, they reflect on how leadership, clarity, and capacity-building can help schools become places where everyone—students and adults alike—can thrive.   TAKEAWAYS Adult behavior significantly impacts student outcomes. How we show up—our presence, our tone, our consistency—shapes every student's experience. Transformative relationships drive change in education. Real, lasting change doesn't start with programs—it starts with people. Connection is the catalyst. Representation in leadership roles is essential for equitable decision-making. Who sits at the table matters. Students need to see themselves reflected in those who lead them. Creating a supportive environment is vital for educator well-being. Educators can't pour into others when they're empty. Support isn't a bonus—it's a necessity. Self-examination helps in understanding emotional responses. The inner work matters. Awareness of our own reactions is essential to leading with clarity and compassion.   CHAPTERS 00:00 – Reversing the Narrative on Education 04:09 – Meet Robert Selders Jr.: A Journey of Transformation 10:00 – The Importance of Representation in Education 13:48 – Empowering Students from Challenging Backgrounds 20:00 – The Role of Adult Behavior in Student Success 25:07 – Fortifying Education Systems Against Challenges 30:10 – Creating Conditions for Adult Thriving 38:50 – Self-Care and Resilience in Education 44:58 – The Lasting Impact of Educators 48:20 – Navigating Relationships and Expectations in Education 49:46 – The Importance of High Standards 52:11 – Embracing Challenges and Personal Growth 54:07 – Dealing with Fear and Emotional Resilience 58:24 – The Power of Reflection and Self-Examination 01:00:20 – Building Capacity and Mastery in Education 01:01:24 – The Role of Leadership in Supporting Educators 01:03:00 – Transformative Relationships in Education 01:10:20 – Anticipating Adversity and Fortifying Systems 01:15:51 – Creating a Supportive Environment for Educators   ************************************************************************************************ Oxygen for Educators is produced by Ripplemaker Project and proudly sponsored by Tacky Box. Follow on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/oxygen-for-educators/id1775510846  Follow on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2i21QueuqVqmEPmI7gzFfQ?si=1bef3354bff2402c  Follow on Audible: https://www.audible.co.uk/podcast/Oxygen-for-Educators/B0DKL68DLX?source_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp  Subscribe on YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEdbuPy-L7p4RZKZ_VWKCXwK_j8vbjZF2&si=7SHeSWZRllrseygs  Website: https://www.tackybox.com/podcast  Thank you to our sponsor, Tacky Box! Website: https://tackybox.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tacky_box/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheTackyBox/  X: https://x.com/thetackybox  Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/thetackybox/

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