#12: The Windy Lawnmower Stuff

24/10/2025 1h 36min
#12: The Windy Lawnmower Stuff

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Episode Synopsis

What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"?
Pablo and Gigi want to encourage you to apply for SEC-05.
Books & websites mentioned:

Stackoverflow is dead by Gergely Orosz
Sovereign Engineering by Gigi and Pablo

In this dialogue:

Gigi's vibeline & vibeline-ui
Pubcastr aka castr.me 
Pablo's thread about TENEX 
Alex Gleason's MKStack 
What is the essence of nostr? 
What are nostr's values, and can LLMs extract them? 
Agents and workflows living on nostr 
Agent specialization and Roo code 
“What would Jesus do?”
What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"? 
Hierarchy of agents 
Generalists vs specialists 
Top-down constraints and bottom-up emergence 
Wise architects VS efficient diff-merging LLMs 
Where does the human fit in? 
Distributed cognition: agents and humans
Hiring agents via nostr 
"If the human has to intervene, something is catastrophically wrong."
Confidence levels of an agent's action 
Giving agents money using mcp-money 
Offering bounties to solve problems 
Stackoverflow is dead
Stock photography is dead 
Real vs fake photography test
Vibe-coding vs regular coding, and how it relates to the switch from analog to digital photography 
What is economical, and what isn't? 
Dialogue and Dia-Logos with LLMs 
Specialization in a multi-agent world 
Adding a small vibe-coding widget to every app (allowing users to customize stuff) 
Multiplicity VS canonical design 
Money is singular, language is not 
Jack's original sin: the twitter Bootstrap theme
The "other stuff" initiative
What's missing from TENEX? Why isn't it fully working just yet? 
Rebuilding everything every 3 weeks
Voice vs text, sentiment analysis vs tone
The power and informational density of silence
In-person vs online communication
Letting agents learn lessons
"Where do you get your ideas from?"
Anonymity vs pseudonyms vs government ID
Agents need identity, money, and reputation
"I own this dude." —Pablo
Owning agents
Vibe-coding lessons: don't look at the code, and in the best case don't even look at the IDE
Human-agent communication: typing vs speaking
Why some meetings couldn't have been an email
Clearly defined problems vs undefined problem spaces
Why TENEX will be in perpetual alpha
What is Sovereign Engineering?
Why should you sign up for it? 
How come so many awesome things came out of it? Blossom, nsite, Zapstore, etc.
Who should come, and who shouldn't?
How did it start?
What's the idea? 
"Fix the money, fix the internet."
"Ship stuff that lasts."
Keep it pure. No monetization. 
Focus on exploration and ideation 
What's the structure? 
6 weeks, 21 participants
Same structure every week
Monday Mornings: Orientation
Tuesday Talks
Wednesday Workshops
Thursday: No Agenda
Friday: Demo Day
Weekend: Hikes
SEC-05: YOLO Mode
Empower users
Optimize for self-sovereignty
Bitcoin works
Lightning works (Gigi's post) 
Build the future you want to see 
Madeira: you can pay in bitcoin almost everywhere 
tl;dr: Listen to every single No Solutions conversation to get an idea of what Sovereign Engineering is