In this episode I speak with my friend SteveSteve has a Masters in public policy, a Degree in journalism, and is a Program producer on Radio 4EB.In our conversation we talked about:Flow statesBeing distracted by obsessive thinkingGardeningPublic policy, political studies, and how things get done and madeAssumptions of traditional behavioural economicsPower structures in societyWe ask; how can we as a society nurture and enable the innate talents and capabilities people have?Exposing people to as many ideas and thoughts as possible in order for them to flourish as human beingsBifurcation of systems in the natural world and the fractal nature of conversationsIf you enjoy these conversations, you can support this podcast by leaving a rating, a review, subscribing or following on your favourite podcasting platform.

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