This week I sit down with Larry Hagner, host of The Dad Edge Podcast. I kick off the show sharing my encounter with Hillary Clinton and a lesson learned from Nelson Mandela. We discuss Larry’s childhood growing up in a toxic household, Larry’s eye-opening experience as a parent, the power of shame, commonalities between parenting and leadership, superheroes and vulnerability, managing our own versions of “Kryptonite”, dealing with criticism, and we throw in a little pop culture along the way.  Click to learn more about Larry and The Dad Edge Podcast.

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