In this episode of Klickline, Mina Kim sits down with Kelly Shindell DeLacey, a certified family law specialist and one of Northern California’s top-rated attorneys, to explore the wild, complicated world of breakups that don’t fit the traditional mold.What happens when you’ve built a life with someone—but never said “I do”?What if your ex wants the house and the Tesla?And how do you avoid a legal mess before love even hits the rocks?Kelly breaks down how smart couples are using cohabitation agreements, custom custody clauses, and creative divorce strategies to protect themselves—without sacrificing fairness or flexibility.What we cover in this episode:The Marvin Rule and what it means if you're unmarriedThe truth about who gets what when you splitWhy every modern relationship needs an exit strategyHow lawyers design breakups for complex livesWhat people always regret not doing before moving inForget the one-size-fits-all prenup. This is relationship law for real life.—Connect with our guestKelly Shindell DeLaceyPartner, DeLacey Riebel & Shindell LLPWebsite: https://www.drsfamilylaw.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-shindell-delacey-9583776Follow your hostMina KimInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/klicklineTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@klicklineWebsite: https://www.klick-line.comSubscribe for more unfiltered conversations on money, marriage, and what comes next.

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