In this episode of Keyboard Samurai, host Wil Klu sits down with Nat Shere, Director of Technical Services at Craft Compliance, to break down what pen testing should look like. From hiring red teamers to avoiding scan-in-a-box vendors, Nat shares war stories, hiring tips, and how to extract real value from your testing program. Whether you're building a team or buying services, these insights will save you money and headaches.Perfect for CISOs, MSSP leaders, tech leaders, and anyone who's ever read a pen test report and thought, “...that’s it?”Find Nat: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathaniel-shere/

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