In this episode, we talk about societal transformation. We discuss the role of theory and practice when it comes to making change happen and you will hear about the opportunities and limitations of doing so in academia and consulting. You will understand what Transformative Governance means and what Mission-Oriented Policy has to do with it. We discuss the importance and challenge of finding cross-border solutions to societal challenges such as climate change – especially in turbulent times like ours. We talk about democracy, citizenship, and why the key for change is new forms for collective action. You will hear about problems of the current consulting industry and how we can turn things around in order to reignite its purpose towards the common good. Finally, we discuss the role of art in all of that. Make sure to let me know your thoughts and join the conversation. Social Iacopo:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iacopo-gronchi/Demos Helsinki: https://demoshelsinki.fi/ihmiset/iacopo-gronchi/UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/iacopo-gronchi Social Ismael:Newsletter: https://landing.mailerlite.com/webforms/landing/u2z0q2Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvd4OFK_0rFnCsu7QhtK4PQ?sub_confirmation=1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ismael_von_der_gathen/Website: http://Ismaelvondergathen.comLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ismaelvondergathen/Linktree: https://linktr.ee/Ismaelvondergathen Links to topics and people discussed in this episode:Demos Helsinki: https://demoshelsinki.fi/ UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/public-purpose/Mariana Mazzucato - The Big Con: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/451193/the-big-con-by-collington-mariana-mazzucato-and-rosie/9780241573082Charles F. Sabel - Fixing the Climate: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691224558/fixing-the-climateRoberto M. Unger - Beyond False Necessity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W01rRJeCwKI&t=401s Roberto M. Unger - Politics: The Central Texts: https://www.versobooks.com/books/807-politics Drift: https://drift.eur.nl/ Timestamps:00:00 Intro - Just Another Mindset Podcast01:18 What we talked about today02:31 Welcome Iacopo05:57 Current challenges 09:02 Theory and practice of change 14:36 Anticipated changes in education 23:10 Transformative Governance 28:45 Mission-Oriented Innovation Policy 36:05 Cross-border action for climate change43:31 Implementation challenges51:12 Democracy and citizenship01:02:31 Collective action 01:08:43 Problems with Consulting01:17:03 The power of art 01:24:18 Final questions01:29:49 Outro - Just Another Mindset Please note that the The Just Another Mindset Podcast makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice.

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