This episode features Dr. Mark Biddle and Dr. Melissa Jackson, two of the founders and leaders of Sophia Theological Seminary & Sophia Farms, organizations that seek to re-imagine theological education. where seminary students will “pay” for their theological education while working on Sophia Farms. We talk about the ways this ministry truly takes the work of Jesus out of the building and onto the land for a new generation of ministers. Especially in light of the political polarization of student loan forgiveness, this conversation provides a revolutionary alternative to student debt. 

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