This week's conversation takes Emma and her guest to Sudan, the moon, questions about the shape of the Earth, and the issue of self governance You can find Jake's A Thousand Words podcasts on YouTube:And on SubstackIf you like what I am doing and would like to support my work, you can do so by navigating to Buy Me A Coffee .com and searching emma lucy wall (with or without spaces). I'm the one with the smiley face and the green heart chakra symbol on my page. Unfortunately, Spotify blocks clickable links for this platform. Apple Podcasts allows it so here is the ⁠⁠link⁠⁠ which you can access direct from there. With much gratitude. Emma xx

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