What does it take to turn science into action on the global stage? In this second episode, science journalist Izzie Clarke speaks with two leading voices in science diplomacy: Professor Zakri Hamid, former Science Advisor to the Prime Minister of Malaysia, and María Estelí Jarquín, ISC Governing Board member and international relations manager at the UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology. Together, they reflect on their career paths and share candid insights on how researchers can build meaningful careers in science policy, diplomacy, and advisory roles. From advising prime ministers to navigating international negotiations, they offer candid reflections and practical advice on the skills, mindset, and opportunities that matter most.

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