In this episode of Human Being School, I’m joined by my mate and fellow runner, Dan Kokken — ultra runner, father of four, and owner/operator of Recovery Lab Hampton and KX Pilates.We start the conversation with Dan’s recent experience at the Kosi 100 miler, using it as a jumping-off point to explore the mental roller coaster of ultra running and the constant decision to keep going when things get hard.From there, we zoom out into a wider discussion on:The mindset required to endure ultra-distance racesNavigating the highs and lows that come with long days on your feetTraining for longevity rather than short-term performanceRecovery strategies that actually matterBalancing running, business ownership, and family lifeThis isn’t just a conversation about running further — it’s about learning how to stay present, resilient, and grounded while pursuing big physical goals alongside real-life responsibilities.If you’re interested in endurance sport, recovery, mindset, or simply how to chase something meaningful without burning out, this episode will resonate.

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