For December’s theme of productive rest, HETMA brings a special crossover: a Big Think Thursday live stream from the HETMA Community feed, captured on Joe Way’s dock in sunny Southern California. Joe and AVNation’s Tim Albright dig into what it really looks like to rest on purpose when your calendar usually makes you wince. From learning to say no after 30 years of always saying yes, to hacking the Thanksgiving week for maximum recharge with minimal PTO, Tim shares how he protects his time and energy while still showing up for the industry. He also walks through how he applies an 80/20 lens to his weekly to-do list, identifying the one or two non-negotiable tasks each day that genuinely move his personal and professional goals forward—including daily rewrites on a book he’s working to release in 2026.The conversation widens out to travel season and life on the road: balancing plane-time productivity with intentional unplugging through fiction reading and downloaded shows, and why hobbies like golf and Brazilian jiu jitsu become built-in therapy sessions for people who otherwise never stop moving. Along the way, Joe and Tim touch on mentorship, asking for help without feeling like a burden, weather jealousy between California and the Midwest, and a bit of community breaking news around new roles and upcoming HETMA Roadshows. It’s a relaxed, honest episode that models exactly what it’s talking about: making space for rest, connection, and purpose in the middle of a very full life.Topics DiscussedWhy learning to say no is essential for avoiding calendar overloadUsing the Thanksgiving week as a strategic recharge window with minimal PTOApplying an 80/20 framework to weekly planning and daily non-negotiablesCarving out 30 minutes a day for deep work, like book rewrites or career developmentThe difference between technical skills growth and learning to manage and lead peopleOvercoming the discomfort of asking for help and building mentoring relationshipsManaging busy travel seasons by splitting plane time between work and intentional restHow hobbies like golf and Brazilian jiu jitsu force real mental and digital unpluggingWeather, seasons, and the tradeoffs between Midwest snow and Southern California sunshineCommunity moments: job news, HETMA Roadshows, and AVNation’s ongoing partnership with HETMAWant to keep the #Roadto10K momentum going and continue this conversation about productive rest, boundaries, and career growth? Join the community discussion at community.hetma.org.

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